The difference to Red eTap AXS is 541 grams. How is the Trek Checkpoint long term testing going? Shimano R9200 brakes use Servo Wave tech, again ported from its MTB range, that gives you progressive brake action that is more aggressive at the end of the stroke and lighter when you're just feathering the brakes. We review Rival AXS's weight, pricing, and how it compares to Force AXS and Red AXS groups. The Dura-Ace R9200 chainset carries forward the looks of its 11-speed predecessor. The lag from the wireless protocol should be imperceptible. Then theyll be cooking with gas. Heres a full list of everything you can buy as of February 2019, and theres plenty more coming. Force cassettes use a mini cluster hybrid design, where the four small cogs are machined out of a single block of steel, and then eight additional cogs are individually pinned together to form the cassette. Now, a more affordable little brother has joined the AXS family. Three teams are on Campy, two are on Sram. This refers to the number of times the back wheel rotates for each full turn of the pedals. It also has considerable weight savings compared to the NX groupset (about 300 g) and carbon and alloy crank options. The SRAM RED eTap AXS rear derailleur is AXS enabled for easy personalization and designed for both 1x and 2x systems. I am eager to hear more of your feedback. SRAM unleashed a whole new concept of gearing and gear ratios as part of the new group, and it will almost certainly inform future products as well. Scope of delivery: 1x SRAM RED XG-1290 rainbow 12-speed cassette. Dura-Ace levers have grown from the 11-speed version. New 10-36 cassette and crank with 30/46 rings make Force eTap AXS more gravel and fondo friendly. In the case of eTap XRS, the sprockets make up two blocks pinned together to produce the whole, but on many designs sprockets can be individual, particularly as they get smaller. SRAM's new wireless RED eTap AXS road groupset has 12 gears, approaches road gearing in a totally new way, is available in either 1x or 2x setups and features a clutch. With the exception of a brake warranty issue (albeit a pretty big one), this is hardly the truth. The AXS technology allows you to make your shifters do what you want them to, and the brake levers have a customizable reach. Wolf Tooth is working on one but its a little further out. Power meter upgrade (spindle only) - $249, Front derailleur (battery not included) - $175, Rear derailleur (battery not included) - $370. The brake/shift levers are bloody awful too. You can add me to the 12s mechanical waiting list. BA1 1UA. So, I do think SRAM is onto something here, and I wouldnt be at all surprised to see other chainring manufacturers following suit. Then they trickled down to the X9, X7 and X5 dual chainring cranksets. SRAMs new wireless RED eTap AXS road groupset has 12 gears, approaches road gearing in a totally new way, is available in either 1x or 2x setups and features a clutch. Is there anything worse than fumbling around for bits and bobs that just wont be found? Shimano rarely releases duds while Sram constantly does. That type of publicity is infinitely more effective than being the official drive-train sponsor of some random WT team. Proven AXS technology at a more affordable price. SRAM seems to be kicking Shimanos butt across the board- mountain and now road. And its nice to have options. Impossible_Beach_552 5 mo. You can keep track of battery levels within the mechs and shifters and also assign up and downshifts to whichever lever you want. Quarqs crank-based power meters have become legendary for their accuracy and reliability. Most of their parts in general are aesthetically acceptable, with the exception of their crank arms. You can also run a 10-36 cassette with a specific, compatible wider-range Red derailleur. There are two variants of the SRAM Red eTap; rim brakes (dual pivot and direct mount) and hydraulic disc brakes (commonly referred to as HRD, or Hydraulic Road Disc). Both SRAM Red eTap AXS and Shimano Dura-Ace are performance groupsets, both are each brand's top-end products and both are used by the pro racers on the international stage. The new Rival Quarq power meter is also a departure from the spider-based Quarq power metersfound on Force and Red. You can also buy a power meter upgrade kit (but not a complete groupset) with 52/39t, 54/41t and 56/43t rings. Their products are sexy and light but not on par with their price in my opinion. Weight difference negligible. SRAM introduced Force eTap AXS 12-speed in 2019, not long after its range-topping Red eTap AXS.Force eTap AXS shares many of the features of the Red wireless 12-speed groupset, but at a more . The combination on the new tooth patterning and increase in clearance means that shifts across the rear block are sharper than before and impeccably smooth and quiet. In comparison to Shimano's traditional gearing, the 50/37 and a 10-26 cassette is the equivalent of the 53/39 with an 11-25 cassette. Package Quantity: 1. Every major publication/website has only talked about AXS since it came out. It has run less than 500 km and the last service was this year. What is the shift speed like? The Rival cassette uses a fully pinned design, where 12 individual cogs are pinned together, increasing the weight by about 20 grams over a comparable Force cassette. It is more important for R&D than for marketing. Bikerumor Copyright 2013 2023. If there were something I didnt like about the group, Id say so, but it really is that good based on first impressions. Cassettes are 11-28 (or closest) We've removed bottom bracket weight as these are frame dependant. I keep waiting for the moment when their reach no longer exceeds their grasp. To some extent this was because of the new chain but also because of the new rear mech's oil-filler damper technology, Orbit, that prevents it from moving on hard, jarring impacts. Beyond these changes, little things like improved texture on the shift paddles and visual refinements add up to a group that offers a drastically improved experience. Theres a limit as to how fast you can move the chain from one cog to the next and still have it engage the teeth properly, and the multi-shift (holding down the shifter to run up or down multiple cogs at a time) is already pushing that limit. With its 12-speed groupsets, rather than develop new road-specific parts Shimano has used some components from its MTB range, one of which is the chain. This groupset shifts from a more traditional 11-speed cassette arrangement to a 12-speed cassette configuration. Front shifts are more positive and completely accurate, even when shifting over broken surfaces as the rear mechs damper increases the chain tension and prevents any chatter and bounce. Secondly, theres compensating; this smooths out gear shifts, so when you change the front ring up or down, it compensates at the rear derailleur, moving either one or two cogs to keep your gear progression even and your cadence steady. Whereas the previous generation Dura-Ace's levers were a miracle of miniaturisation, the R9200 ones have actually grown a bit so they're just slightly smaller than SRAM's. A remote mount for the battery would give even more clearance at the front derailleur. > SRAM unleashed a whole new concept of gearing and gear ratios. Well, that all depends on what kind of group you want and how you ride. The spring clutch in the Rival rear derailleur provides the same function but with simpler tech. SRAM has a history of making products that consumers love but mechanics hate. Force coming in April. Just as the original eTap had plenty of innovative touches, so does the new kid in town. It uses a nickel-chrome plated cassette with full pin construction for durability and light weight. Visit our corporate site. Thats something you could have noted. Works like a charm and IMHO shifts better now than it did with the force chainring. Wide crankset and front derailleur options for gravel bikes. Adding a 12th sprocket to the cassette reduced the space in between the cogs, so SRAM designed a new 12-speed chain which it took as an opportunity to create the distinctive looking flattop chain now in use. Note: SRAM eTap component weights includes batteries because batteries all weigh the same. Shop now RED ETAP AXS HRD SHIFT-BRAKE SYSTEM Anyone willing to spend thousands on this mess will soon discover that SRAM completely missed any opportunity to develop/refine the many awesome features of ETAP 11. Every review of axs so far is pure fluff. Whereas SRAM brakes use DOT fluid, Shimano's use mineral oil. This is called compensating shifting by SRAM and semi-synchronised shifting by Shimano. This slims down the derailleur but also keeps it pulled up and out of harm's way when riding. SRAM Force eTap AXS groupset options, weights, and pricing are as follows; Force eTap AXS 1X Electronic Road Groupset Rim (1,983g): RRP AU$2099 Force eTap AXS 2X Electronic Road Groupset Rim (2,453g): RRP AU$2,779 Force eTap AXS 1X Electronic HRD Groupset (2,572g): RRP AU$2,779 Force eTap AXS 2X Electronic HRD Groupset (2,812g): RRP AU$3,399 A geartrain without friction? Were a year on and availability is still sketchy, and theyve had to go back to the drawing board one hubs and cranks, after releasing them a year ago. All Shimano's cassettes are backward compatible with wheels with 11-speed Shimano freehubs despite having a different flange arrangement. Red uses carbon brake levers and hollow carbon crank arms. This increases the tension in the lower segment of chain and stops it falling off the chainring. Rival AXS provides a more affordable alternative to the Force eTap AXS group and the top-of-the-line Red eTap AXS group. Theres also an all-new motor with more power and faster signal transfer, to go along with the groupsets overhauled chipset thats running things. The material its used is both harder and stronger, and finished in what its calling Hard Chrome. So far the only cranks that fit are 24/22mm ones. Note:SRAM HRD shifter weights include the cables, brake hose and caliper. Force uses this same spider for the 2x system, making it easy to swap chainrings from 2x to 1x with the swap of chainrings and chainring bolts only. In the wake of a tragic accident thats garnered national attention, a cycling community looks to pick up the pieces. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. The * means that its not actually checking your power and efficiency to optimize cadence for you, personally. First of all, lets talk about that 12th sprocket. These are then pinned together to create the 12-speed block. ago. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Here they are. Direct-mount chainrings are available in 38t through 46t in two-tooth increments.Read more about the difference between 2x and 1x drivetrains on gravel bikes. Note: Mechanical weights do not include cabling. They are compatible with 135mm, 142mm, and 148mm Boost rear axle spacing. 33T: 33T=5mm / 30T=10mm / 28T=10mm / 26T=14mm (chain in largest sprocket) Rear derailleur max. Will that luster hold up? SRAM now gives you the 50/37t chainrings previously reserved for Red, but the test bike was specced with smaller 48/35t rings - SRAM's version of the mid-compact chainset. To work out the range of a cassette divide the largest sprocket by the smallest and multiply by 100, and looking at the range of AXS the ranges are broader than traditional gearing. Having been testing bikes for more than 20 years, Warren has an encyclopedic knowledge of road cycling and has been the mastermind behind our Road Bike of the Year test for more than a decade. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. This is how you discover new territory off the beaten track. 121 people watching This 2022 BASIC Bikes Carbon Gravel Bike mit Rival AXS, Carbon Laufradsatz, Titanschrauben, leicht und schnell - Other SRAM is a frame size 52. Youll regularly find him commuting on an ebike and he longs for the day when everyone else follows suit. For the road test, I was handed a Trek Checkpoint gravel bike equipped with the new eTap AXS parts, Zipp 303 tubeless ready wheels and the bike brands sweet vibration damping tech. The brake levers are aluminum, and the lever reach is adjustable so you can personalize your fit. The reason why is because there is a host of different wire length + junction options and weight will fluctuate with setup. SRAM says that this ability to absorb water is an advantage if you do get damp in your brakes, as it means that it's less likely there will be free water droplets in the hoses than with an oil-based system, where it would boil at 100C and so potentially impact performance. There is something to be said for just being the best out there and sometimes that requires breaking changes that screw up compatibility. SRAM RED eTap AXS Actual Weights Road 2x (48/35 combo) - 419g with powermeter Road 1x (48t X-Sync) - 395g with powermeter Left crank - 156g Front derailleur - 165g with battery Rear derailleur - 247g with battery 10-33 Cassette - 211g Shifters - 233g/234g with coin cell batteries installed Updated Blip Box - 24g The rear mech on the AXS has also had an upgrade. Shimano meanwhile has a single central battery that's usually mounted in the bike's seat tube and powers both derailleurs via wires. Heres how it works. I hope that puts it into perspective. The SRAM Red eTap AXS Shift-Brake Levers uses wireless electronic shifting to get the job done. Such is the design of eTap AXS, the clutch isnt needed. eTap is the next generation, electronic shifting system from SRAM, replacing their famous mechanical shifting, the Double Tap. Sign up to receive BikeRumor content direct to your inbox. One thing we did notice in our testing was that the SRAM groupset was significantly more silent than its Shimano Dura-Ace rival. A travel floor pump with big features, a long hose, and a digital gauge, it easily hides in a duffel, backpack, or anywhere in your car. With AXS I expected some improvement and a wider range of gears, but I wasnt totally convinced about how essential it would be. Shimano is rolling out special editions for gravel and road. The days of riders pushing huge gears with a tiny rear block are well and truly over, as ideas and beliefs over physiological efficiency change. Learn how your comment data is processed. The Vitesse EVO Red eTap AXS is easier to ride up hills than similar bikes. AXS has real innovations that should be lauded. According to srams website, when that happens, they will discount it by 50% but its still seems like added complexity when a spider based system works fine. If I do go down the AXS path this year, I think an Easton crank might be the way to go. The sheer quality of the operation is magnificent and the addition of an app adds the last piece of the puzzle to the user-friendliness of eTap (both old and new). Ummmm no, they just downsized things. However, on the road side it lacks any type of damper or clutch. He didnt seem very convinced that it was faster. Features: AXS electronic integration platform Ive ridden the AXS and the shifting IS slow compared to di2 but fine if you like etap. Beginners or triathletes pure gold right there! Ive come to expect great ideas with mediocre execution from SRAM. SRAM's hoods house the hydraulic brake reservoirs as well as the shifter electronics. Secondly, it can change gears up or down a few sprockets on the rear to compensate for a shift at the front so that you get a similar ratio after the front shift rather than either spinning or grinding, as is typical with mechanical shift systems. SRAM launched Red eTap in 2015 and followed up in 2019 with 12-speed Red eTap AXS. Once the rear mech reaches a pre-defined point on the cassette the next shift will initiate a front mech shift with the rear mech making a corresponding shift in the opposite direction to give you the next gear ratio up or down the cassette. I dont mind it until Im at race wattage and then its a first world problem because the shifting is noticeably slower than di2 of any gen. Ive got 7970 still and it shifts faster than AXS. Hes been riding gravel since before gravel bikes existed too, riding a cyclocross bike through the Chilterns and along the South Downs. Rival AXS shifters have a new, revised shape, designed to fit hands of all sizes and provide powerful braking from both the hoods and drops.