Progressive Baptist Church Chicago - YouTube Yeah thats in bad form. We are hosting our New Member Orientation known as 'Connection Institute.' The statement on critical race theory and intersectionality has soiled that good faith.. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. That is a concerning statement. I think part of this is connected to what attracted me to Salem Baptist. When did those who have yet to hire multiple Black or brown faculty at their seminaries assume ethical authority on the subject of systemic injustice? The two pastors brought up recognizing the reality of systemic racism alongside the truth and authority of Scripture. It seems to me that God has been up to this, directing this well before I could tell. I just hate to see us automatically dismiss a pastor, church or ministry due to size. That was the message Sunday from the Rev. So Im not in a position to speak on that. View Charlie Dates' profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. Im working to discern Gods direction as it relates to timing of when to conclude. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Learn more. Standing in the pulpit on Sunday at the House of, Feet splashed in puddles on a rainy Sunday afternoon as almost 1,000 people came together in Smyrna, a small town in Middle. Martin L. King Jr. On the eve of the 50th anniversary of his assassination, it was as if they had come to reckon with the ghosts of their past and the theological underpinnings that ignored his ministry. But what a blessing to the members of both congregations. James Meeks, founder and longtime senior pastor of Salem Baptist Church on the citys far South Side. Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church - Chicago . Two things. He served three terms as an Illinois state senator, was chairman of the state board of education, and ran in Chicagos 2011 mayoral race. His wife Kirstie also followed up to pray with me and further encourage me. Walk-ins are welcome but appointments are preferred. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". It just isnt where God has me in this season of my life (yet). Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Some in our ranks inappropriately use the label of CRT! to avoid legitimate questions or as a cudgel to dismiss any discussion of discrimination. "I sense God performing a work of His Spirit that connects Salem to churches that need revitalization. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Perhaps you are taking on a worldly definition of love? Charlie Dates | moodyaudio.com With teary eyes, I just told them I hope that they accept my recommendation when that time comes. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. What I will say is that Progressive and Salem demonstrate the spectrum of Black churches in Chicago. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall.. That was the last straw for Dates, he wrote in a column for Religion News Service. Meeks serves on the Moody Bible Institute Trustee Board, and Dates has worked as an adjunct professor there. Everybody loves our old, respected leaders but I want to set an example that its okay to give the next generation an opportunity, Meeks adds. @progressivechicago | @charliedates |. Meeks, who plans to stay involved with Hope of House, Salems philanthropic organization, is one of the latest longtime U.S. church leaders to step down. He announced Sunday he'll preach his last sermon to the 10,000-member church on January 8, 2023. "And God has blessed us with our own son who has agreed starting January 15th, 2023, to be the next pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago.". The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". If, however, I fail to get the churches to see that our history serves our present and inspires our future, then Im in trouble. But Pastor Dates said, I know you probably dont like me right now, I can tell from how youre reacting to what Im saying; but Im not here to get you to like me. Charlie has 1 job listed on their profile. Pastor Charlie Dates is the Senior Pastor of The Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, Illinois. The Social Justice Ministry is here to help through our Gospel Justice Center Legal Clinic. Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart.. I Can't Breathe: A Sermon by Charlie Dates - The Gospel Coalition Religion News Service reported that Fred Luter, the only black SBC president, signed on in agreement. Charlie Dates - The Presbyterian Outlook This isnt something that I read or something that I watched; this is a ministry that I participated in and had a front row seat to as a kid, said Dates, who grew up at Salem and attended its former school, Salem Christian Academy. I wonder how many of them provide full time paychecks. Dates to speak at your next event, please complete the Speaker Request form. Come stop by the north lobby to have your picture and/or video taken on March 19th and the 26th directly following service, As our church family continues to grow, we want to welcome our new members home. In 2020, Dates, married with two children, was among a number of black Christian church leaders to cut ties with the Southern Baptist Convention over a statement from the denomination's Council of Seminary Presidents denouncing racism and critical race theory. Dates also is an affiliate professor at Baylor Universitys George W. Truett Theological Seminary in Texas and at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois, according to his bio. Progressive Baptist Church (map) Google Calendar ICS Join us in the sanctuary from 4pmCT -6pmCT as we meet and greet political candidates running to be the mayor of our great city this upcoming Spring. Feel free to watch our services online! I dont see anything wrong with loving those who Christ calls us to love, which includes our brothers and sisters in Christ (that includes pastors). I dont know if Id recommend this to anybody. He hijacked the affirmation meeting of the Baptist Faith & Message, turning it into a conservative resurgence revival. I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the accountability and resources they provide for the larger body. Theres a danger when the person idolized has a position of power and authority, particularly in a religious sense. Dates graduated from Salem Baptists Christian school, which has since closed. After 11 years at Progressive and watching more than 1,000 people join that church in that time, its fair to say that I carry the DNA of both churches. They are selectively conservative. But it would be foolish to assume its humanly possible to do this in and of myself. The backstage conversations at these gatherings promised a new era of advancement on race and theology. Our History Progressive Baptist Church Blessed to serve in the city in which he was born, Reverend Dr. Charlie E. Dates is Chicago through and through. and Ph.D. at Trinity Evangelical Divinity . How has God moved and worked in ones life? Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the. Dates added that the transition will start in January 2023. I had the privilege of not only hearing him preach as a guest speaker at my church, but also meeting him after a singles event hosted by Progressive. The pastor of Progressive at the time, his name was Reverend T. Brown, he was such a dynamic leader in the city that he was able to tell [former Chicago mayor] Richard J. Daley, No. And live to tell about it. He holds a PhD in Historical Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. "We can multiply that in evangelism, in discipleship, in educating our kids in reducing violence, shutting down liquor stores and opening up new opportunities to help rescue families and that's the church being the church.". Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. "Not only is he called, but he is qualified or educated. It is going to take an academic mind and a saved heart.". Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. Just goes to show that even in this day and age, after all thats happened, megachurches still value butts in the seats and the almighty dollar over holding celebrity pastors accountable for their actions and character. I see the Pauline example in the Gospel of teachers/leaders being figures that we seek and respect for guidance and direction and boundaries, and not necessarily the same functions that friends and family (in or outside of the church) perform. (RNS) In 2018, something happened at the MLK50 Conference in Memphis, an event co-hosted by the Southern Baptist Conventions policy arm and The Gospel Coalition. The young pastor said he had to convince his members that joining the denomination for the sake of mission partnerships would be a good move. Neither am I saying that hes the only significant influence in my life. Thats the good ol boys club. Mohler, to take one example, endorsed a philandering, racist president, thereby betraying his Black and brown Christian family. Sign up for our newsletter: To learn more about how you can begin or deepen a relationship with Jesus Christ, visit us at ProgressiveChicago.org . CT interviewed him about the history of the two congregations and his call to lead Salem Baptist. And while we are kind of watching this great falling away, we dont have to merely watch it. If tons and tons of people love them and how they make them feel thats pretty much a sign that they are doing the *opposite* of the Great Commission. And if you think it feels good, warm and fuzzy to be confronted about your sin when youre in the middle of grief, you are VERY mistaken. Salem has not lost its relevance, Salem has not lost its edge, while maintaining a very high view of Scripture and its very Christo-centric approach to ministry. Shouldnt a competent, strong, wise pastor stir and challenge his flock, make their complacency seem uncomfortable? Last month, Dates joined the Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast to talk about the need for solid Christian preaching during tough times. Marin 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | [email protected]. Something is lost when a pastor becomes distanced from 99% of his church. Meeks' retirement comes at a time when many longtime church leaders have been transitioning out of leadership as they contend with dwindling attendance and other ministry upheavals laid bare by the COVID-19 pandemic. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Theres just no way you can pastor a church that big being involved in all of the details, right? And Im not sure how bringing up holy men of other faiths comes into it I was at a Christian event seeking Biblically-rooted ministry, and thats what Pastor Dates and his wife provided. If thats idolatry to youwe can disagree. Charlie Dates is pastor of the Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago. His decision came two days after West made a similar argument in a Baptist Standard op-ed. The Rev. Some worry that a systemic view of racism, where a person is considered privileged or disadvantaged in society because of their race, conflicts with Christian beliefs about forgiveness or people holding equal value before God. Im not sure I understand your point. And thats part of the beauty I think of this story. Do you have a birthday or anniversary next month? Progressive was once, decades ago, the kind of leading force of churches on the South Side. Amen to thateven if the pastor in question is the Godliest guy on the planet to start with, which is seldom if ever the case. Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. On one hand, Progressive is what I would call progressively traditional, and Salem is traditionally progressive. Their stand against racism rings hollow when in their next breath they reject theories that have been helpful in framing the problem of racism, he wrote, disappointed that the presidents would come together to speak out against it rather than turning their criticism toward other ills such a racism itself. "Give Me My Mountain" | Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago Progressive was around WAY before Charlie Dates; it was not founded or based on his teachings alone. . For questions or to reach his office, please email [email protected]. Image courtesy of Baptist Press. That philosophy has weakened whatever prophetic potential the SBC has. To them, a belief in a high view of Scripture must mean an adaptation of Republican politics and, with it, the dismissal of critical race theory and intersectionality because of a fear of liberalism. That said, our church has just as high a view (if not higher) of Scripture as any SBC church, but theirs is an inconsistent epistemology. Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. I have to lead through my leaders. I believe now that the time has come for me to yield to a younger person.. Its one thing to adore someone you dont have any personal relationship with. Chuck Smith himself, who started out as every kind of salt and light, found himself tempted by the limelight as he got bigger and bigger, and we saw more and more of his flaws as time went on. But I do sense and feel that a lot of the progress that Ive been able to make in the pastorate is connected in some way to his tutelage, his leadership, and his spiritual fathering, so to speak. 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Charlie Dates Returns to the Chicago Church that Shaped Him Subscribe to CT for less than $4.25/month. Return to homepage. COMMENTARY: Six white men shouldnt decide Southern Baptist position on race. "The Kingdom work is never to stop with one generation. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Woke Wars infiltrate Christian colleges, prof under fire for racial justice unit, Southern Baptists oust Rick Warrens Saddleback Church for naming a female pastor, Professor Joeckel on why his contract, teachings on racial justice are under review, Copyright 2020, Religion News Service. I like my pastor; I dont love him. Please click here to learn how. I didnt say Pastor Dates was the ONLY person who could minister to me; I dont have anyone in my life like htat. All rights reserved. But you seem determined to dismiss or belittle it in some sort of attempt to insult the Dates and me. But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. Dr. I recognize this moment is big, and its watershed, but it is not about me. As one Conservative Baptist Network member said, they must constantly repent but can never actually be forgiven., A group of Southern Baptist pastors released a statement Friday voicing their opposition to any movement in the SBC that seeks to distract from racial reconciliation through the gospel and that denies the reality of systemic injustices.. Dr. Charlie Dates will take his place. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. No. I go where God leads me not Charlie Dates. After the neighborhood went dry, Walmart opened a store. The mega church concept is already troublesome. Well, the Stewardship Ministry at ProgressiveChicago is excited to partner with The YWCA and Liberty Bank to offer a 6 hour in-person or virtual homebuyer's workshop. I cant speak for them. What is liberalism to the conservative Southern Baptists? The resolution clarified the theory could be employed, but only subordinate to Scripture.. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. The hard reality of the seminary presidents statement is that Black people will never gain full equality in the Southern Baptist Convention. Perhaps I need to know whats defined as a megachurch? And I recognize that. He is a contributing author to the 2014 book Letters To A Birmingham Jail, and the 2019 book, Say It: Celebrating Expository Preaching in The African American Tradition. They do not understand themselves to be beneficiaries of a system that marginalizes people of color.". Also, while there are many people in the comment section who rightfully call him to repent over it, there are plenty of others, including names such as Lecrae and Kyle J Howard, who tweeted their approval of his use of the slur. Dates explained he saw rejecting CRT as part of a continuing heritage of dangerous conservatism.. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Dates new role will mean others will take on some of what Dates does now at Progressive, he said. Part of what Im learning and discerning about Gods direction for ones life is to pay close attention to the bend of ones spiritual biography. Its been anchored in the community. They are ready to send their young students to the very seminaries that are both vestiges of racial animus and also the places where these harmful attitudes are perpetuated. The statementposted on the anniversary of the 13th amendment abolishing slaverycalled for collective repentance and criticized those who would downplay SBCs racial history or label others as critical race theorists for acknowledging systemic injustices. Gleannings aggregates what others are reporting. We want to see our church grow. To invite Dr. EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Shamed, Excommunicated Mother for Refusing to Take Back Child Abuser, Days-long Revival Sweeping Asbury University in Kentucky, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Covered Up Pastors Sexual Abuse, Witnesses Say, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthurs Church Supported Convicted Child Abuser & Pedophile, Records Show, Dante Bowe Posts, Then Removes, Apology for Behavior Causing Split with Maverick City Music, Matt Chandler Steps Aside After Admitting Inappropriate Online Relationship, John MacArthur Pulls Out of Ligonier Conference, Pastor Resigns From Houston Megachurch After Admitting Affair, Televangelist Creflo Dollar Renounces Past Teachings on Tithing, But Questions Persist. I cant speak much about Salem Baptist Church (other than its known in the Black community here in Chicago due to its sheer size), but I do know Progressive. And, yes, nothing good ever comes out of megachurches and rock-star pastors. Both have spoken at Moodys annual Founders Week conferences. Both Meeks and Dates also have a connection to the Moody Bible Institute. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. Dr. Charlie Dates . He shared a vision of revival. You see many people who are guilty of holding onto positions too long, he says. To correct us from repeating errors and to inspire and to encourage us to pursue Gods great promise. Charlie Dates named successor to James Meeks at 10K-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. Calling him "the greatest young preacher in our nation today," Rev. @progressivechicago | @charliedates |. We need new opportunities. My approach at Salem will be similar once I have learned again the way of the land. In 1998, Meeks led a push to close 26 liquor stores in a 19-block radius near Salem. Galatians 5: 13-14 | Pastor David Swanson, Pastor Charlie Dates | Progressive Chicago. 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In his response, current SBC president Greear asked that fellow members of the denomination consider their concerns and suggested that there are things we can learn from worldly philosophies like critical race theory., Last week, prior to West and Datess announcements, Ausberry, who serves as SBC first vice president and head of the denominations National African American Fellowship, responded to the seminary presidents statement by saying that systemic racism exists and there are theories and constructs that help us to see and discover otherwise undetected, systemic racism in institutions and in ourselves., Especially for those of us who have experienced the brunt of systemic racism in our daily lives, our seminary presidents are good men and they had good intent, Ausberry said in an interview with Baptist Press, but the optics of six Anglo brothers meeting to discuss racism and other related issues without having ethnic representation in the room in 2020, at worst it looks like paternalism, at best insensitivity.