Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? Launched on the March 2018 cover of Guns & Ammo, the Momentum was actually Franchi's first rifle. I am really interested in a waypoint. I just took the first shots with the Winchester XPR in 6.8 Western today. This ammo is usually an average accuracy performer for me, but dang did the Franchi shoot it well. I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. Its great out to about 400. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. Now they are North of $400. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. I have been looking for a carbon barrel rifle in a .308 due to ammo availability. Im considering a modern Win 70 as well. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Its a well designed stock, but the fit and finish feels cheesyespecially the checkering pattern they use. I looked at the Waypoint locally and thought is was a really nice gun. Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. Have you had a chance to look over or review the Savage Impulse? Most of the great rifles youve taken time to make us salivate for do not make left handed models. I decided to to send Fierce an email basically telling them how disappointed I was with the tight chamber and extractor design issues and failure. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? The plasticky stock is Pure junk. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) My search is with an elk/mule deer hunt in mind. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. Yes and yes. I was considering the Sig Cross, but the safe selector issue concerns me. Not sure what caliber you tested the bergara b14 ridge in but, I bought one from Scheels last year in 6.5 prc and it would scratch up the casings, and jam up on the last round. Shut up Vlad. DK. Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? Jim, Great content on both the website and on Youtube. Next. I can stretch the budget to a Browning if I have to, but the Winchester XPR is more in my price range. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. Franchi is known for making high-quality firearms at affordable prices, and the Momentum Elite is the perfect example of this. Hey Jim, Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. The internal box magazine holds four rounds. The trigger however appears to be decent and I like the one piece bolt but I think the internal magazine is a deal breaker for me. Keep up the great work. I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. Plus all the pros of the above B-14 review. A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. Ive narrowed it down to a Sig Cross in 6.5, a JTAC Screech Owl in 6.5 22 barrel. Savage 110? funny, I was between the FME and the CVA cascade for a 350L. I have played with many of the rifles you have. Thanks, I have looked all over and cant find out much about these. Glad that rifle is a shooter. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. I recently had a chance to sight it in and run everything over the chronograph . I was very impressed at the response I got from John and can tell you Fierce is a company that stands behind their products. Gun #: 932303293. Overall * * * * 80lbs maybe. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. I did go looking for the reloading equipment you mentioned and more on acquiring lowers ahead of time, yet unable to find. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned Thanks. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. Do you know a lot about rifles. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. Magazine Comparison: The Browning X-Bolt features a 4 round detachable polymer rotary magazine. Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? All are captive so you wont lose them. I too had nailed it down to the Savage or the Ruger American Rifle. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Again not a spot of rust. Zero quality control issues. Keep the vids coming, I look forward to seeing them. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. (weight) This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. Would I buy this rifle? It has become one of my favorite guns. Server Time: 2023-01-16 08:20:56 UTC PS. Question about the vanguard vs the bergara. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Any of you guys have any experience with the Burris signature scopes? The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . It seems to boast a sturdier stock. How may races are there and is idiot one? YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. Dont get me wrong. Great review. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. Though the tightest of those were from outlets that shoot 3-round groups, for what thats worth (well, its worth a tighter average group size). Great review Franchi lists the Momentum's weight at 6.6 pounds, unloaded and unscoped. Quality control issues, Im about to send it BACK in for a 2nd time for them to figure out why its damn near impossible to open or close the bolt after a few shots. Is the bergara name worth it? So I do still think they have some QC issues to deal with. Ill update the post. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. 1. can be top loaded, I am not sure, or saying one is better than the other, but that was something that bothered me. Specifications: Franchi Momentum in .308 Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) Capacity: 4+1 Barrel Length: 22 inches Twist Rate: 1:11 Overall Length: 42.3 inches Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Weight: 6.6 pounds MSRP: $609 ( about $450 retail) Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? When will you be putting the Seekins HAVAK PH2 through its paces? Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. Ok I concede your right to a degree but there are tons and tons of older made deer rifles on the market. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Yes if I were going to Alaska where you can run into damp rainy weather for days on end I would either have my Mauser electrolysis nickle plated (it plates even the inside of a receiver and barrel) or if I wanted to get off cheap take a chance on a modern stainless rifle that probably would freeze up in very cold weather with their speed lock mechanisms which are idiotic in a hunting rifle. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. Since Bergara use a Rem 700 barrel (action and trigger too?) Pls recommend as I need a rifle under 1500 $ including Scope for shooting upto 600 Yards with cheaper ammo to practice more. What ammo are you shooting in your cross? Not many have been around since they are new this year. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. An XBolt in 6.8 Western may be a great option. What do you think of the weight of the gun compared to some of these lightweight carbon stocks? Every Weatherby Ive ever shot has been exceptionally accurate and well-built. Best 5 shot group was .320 so I wouldnt knock the compass for a budget rifle. Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) You made your point. Do you think this is normal business practice ? The Elite series, added alongside the budget-priced original in 2020, did nothing to diminish those impressions. I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. Thanks for the content you put out! I am a huge fan of their 1911s and know they are big into precision rifles. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle breakMOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. Gear up as your favorite Delsin Rowe Vest. it seems well priced at about 600. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. Fit me like a glove. Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. I dont know if wood and metal rifles are extinct but it looks that way in Scheels. Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. You mentioned it once but I cant find a video where you review it? A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I do like the 300wm type power but its been a challenge researching top recommendations. I might add when I got back to the car even with all that grease and oil on my gun I still sprayed it down with WD40 and again when I got it home and dried everything off. Hey there Jim. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. I really like the Springfield waypoint but it is out of my price range but definitely the nicest rifle Ive held! Thanks. Thanks. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. So not sure what went wrong with the patriot, and I dont really use the ATR except for friends to use but it is a hell of an accurate rifle. There really isnt much to complain about on a Bergara B-14. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. Ruger precision is really heavy for hunting, but a cool rifle. Jim, I think you misspoke about the Ultralite. Fancy for an affordable rifle, the Franchi Momentum sports a one-piece, fluted bolt. So Id recommend just paying for it online. Hi Jim, have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. I came over the years to loath short action rifles. CVA all the way. Its a good option for light cartridges, but the light weight and stock design dont make for a good match on heavy cartridges. excellent trigger. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. I havent seen you review any CZ rifle, any cause un particular? Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. While I believe theyve succeeded in creating a stock that accommodates many different shooting positions and feels above average in all, it doesnt necessary excel in any of them. How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? Alpha? It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. Did you pick up the Seekins? It doesnt handle recoil well because of the stock design. I cannot give a better example than that. I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. Esp in 7mm-08. Action is very heavy and clunky. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. Ruger Americans are fantastic. I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. Thanks for your time Jim, love the channel! And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. Itd make a Backstreet Boy jealous. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. After getting what I believe to be a bad copy of a Ruger American in 308, I am looking to upgrade. Its hard to find info anywhere on it. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. I agree with you. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. Ive got a lot of autoloader pistol and AR experience, but my only bolt action is an old Mosin Nagant. Accurate, lightweight, and comfortable with a great trigger, its a solid choice to fill your freezer this season. when buying a boltaction rifle to be used for hunting,do you prefer a safety that locks the bolt down,or one that allows you to work the action.I prefer the type that locks the bolt. Full Details. Man I really love your reviews! Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. I would not even try and shoot a moose with the Creedmore but its no problem with the 6.5 Swede with its 1 in 7.8 twist with the 160 grain slugs. I like the reviews on the CVA but the Bergara is hard to beat, the Terrain Wilderness is the one Im leaning towards. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. Havent shot it yet, but well see how it performs. hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. Threaded barrel for a brake. Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator My 6.5 CM shoots sub MOA groups. Hi Jim, Its just tough to get excited about because it has no single stand-out feature. Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. I was disappointed to see that you no longer recommend the Savage 110 ultralight, having watched the original review which just about made up my mind to spend the $1200. I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? I just have to say thank you I really appreciate your unbiased and honest opinions. I like the Bergara B-14 ridge. Everyone else says so but I figured Id ask. There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. Made in Italy? Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. 1) the quality from rifle to rifle Hello Jim. In the end I still believe the 7mm RM is more versatile. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. It and the Fierce Rogue are tight competitors. Weighs under 6 lbs. have you try the weatherby mark v accumark in 300 win mag? The Bergara B14 Wilderness with adjustable cheek piece would be a great choice, as well as anything in the Bergara Premier Series. Fierce Rival I really like my Fierce Rival chambered in 6.5 PRC. The new Elite versions now feature detachable box magazines, Cerakote metal finishes and stocks wearing popular camo patterns. I recently purchased a Franchi Momentum 300 win mag w/24 in.