Coy's flock, which had followed him for decades as the church became Florida's largest, was devastated. Bob isnt. Flynn wrote: To simply read the Bible simply you would never come up with conclusions like. You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. Flynn, one cannot separate doctrine from practice; the two do not exist separately. 2. Im concerned with those whose lives have been shattered by Bob Coys choices. So this is a serious question. fllynn, when you describe their teachings as garbage and nonsense, it isnt the truth it is your ungracious interpretation. From the camera shots of the kids in the audience-they werent buying it. We have an enemy and it is not Pastor Bob. . I am praying for him, his family, and his church. He failed, thats what men do. Decades of life wasted. LOL, go and pray about it. They pop up on our husbands e-mail, Facebook, etc. All after his Jessica Hahn scandal as a minister. She confirmed the story in stomach-churning detail. They need our prayers. Sin nature is pervasive no matter who you are in church culture. At one time I clearly remember the address was Pompano Beach but maybe that was at the gateway location. I'll never forget that meeting.". A few years back after leaving the church I found some old cassette tapes and his messages were less funny and more serious. I cant believe some of the comments Ive read here and on CCAbuse. My ex CC pastor is following Coy in his vision of mult-sites and to me its just not a good vision at all especially when the pastor falls like this. Yes, Praise God He has, but forgiveness does not always cancel consequences. Listen to his own words here: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-MacarthurMark-of-the-Beast.html. If I was a Calvinist I would still punch you in the blog-mouth with your silliness. Give me a break. We are all human and all the same essentiallythough fundamentalist Islam seems to be the worst religious ideology of all-time and the most dangerous and destructive. "We learned of this report after it was disclosed and reported to the appropriate authorities," says Michael Miller, a church spokesman. I mark you as a false teacher whose teaching is, what were the words you used of others??? I said way at the top that Bob Coy can be restored as a brother. Were there other abuse claims against Coy during the nearly three decades he controlled Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? And so if you cant read shall reign with him 1000 years as shall reign with him 1000 years, that is your personal issue. Moe #470, where was the church leadership teaching the women to dress modestly for church? God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. The subject was brought up suggesting that church and Flynn was correct in most of his post which addressed those issue. Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. Thanks Michael. The enemy is now going to go to work and use this to do precisely what I see going on in this blog. No one is perfect. That is how it is then noted in the employees record. But in 1981, his life changed forever thanks to an epic holiday hangover and his brother Jim, who'd already found religion. We are sinners. I was feeling horrible.". Bob Coy is the tip of the iceberg and gets special attention because of his position, but his fellow sinners are legion. Surely nobody thinks they just found out at the Sunday afternoon meeting. Funny how theres one standard someone has about bearing false witness to their buddy and another one for me. A woman told Coral Springs Police she had recently learned something terrible: A South Florida man had molested her daughter for years. If a Pastor is sinning in his personal life, how can I have confidence in what he says from the pulpit? #325 Is that Biblical? Truth and reality may arise for all involved. (I use the term Coy-ite because both mother and daughter were mesmerized by Coy and his comedic style in speaking.) to attract a crowd, something is wrong. The transformation that has taken place is that when I sin there is conviction that takes place reminding me that what I have done or thought is wrong. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. The world will know you by your love for one another Lets starting loving a little more and get back to our Fathers business. "We need answers.". If they see him go to the offended and attempt reconciliationregardless of their response to himand maintain a gracious patience with those offended. All the CC folks on here are quick to point out that the CC leaders are sinners and flawed. Coys position on Israel is moot if his relationship with his wife is on the rocks. When the Pastor goes to a local college and tacks posters all over on his upcoming Bible study Did Jesus really have s+x? I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. Why not face the congregation of you have nothing to hide? Shooting the messenger is rather common in the initial hours of disbelief. But two weeks after his surprise resignation, Assistant Pastor Chet Lowe filled Coy's followers in on what had happened. We all sin, but this is heartbreaking. It would also give her the opportunity to stop worrying as much. If Bob Coy can only draw a crowd by comedy, then that tells you the nature of the whole place. I think so in time. My first teaching exposure at CCFtl was about Hosea and Gomer. I was able to get some details on the matter and published yesterday afternoon. Only at least Coy got caught for his stuff, my step-dad CC pastor still gets away with it. I have not been to this site in quite sometime (If anyone doubts that , Im sure Michael can verify that, right Michael?) @605 I sure hope that those are incorrect facts. In fact, the concept of an earthly reign of Christ,of any length of time is foreign to the NT. They did not need a transformation gospel to know right and wrong and to choose to do good things. this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today!, Wow Ill let my reformed friends know that theyre not really saved because Hugh said so. If that board doesnt see evidence of Bob relinquishing his power over this injured and vulnerable group of people in Ft Lauderdale and beyond, then they will have no choice but to release enough of the details to protect the Body from a fallen pastor who has no idea how dangerous he is to a people he claims to have loved. Please understand that for a follower of Christ any transgression is against God as well as man. Krent, Why do you express yourself behind screen names? I can only speak for myself, I want that I say to be more important that who I am. I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct. My moneys on Michaeland everything Im hearing from my sources confirms it. Is there a lawsuit coming? The Asst Pastors are pretty weak with the exception of Bill Schott BUT he is a teacher and not evangelical. None are incapable of doing very bad things after they are saved and many on here point to guys like King David who was a polygamist who had sex slaves, committed adultery, murdered the husband of his mistress and was generally a bad guy for big chunks of his lifeyet he was a man after Gods own heart. Daniel uses the 7s in its proper biblical sense to mean a completeness of time this is not a specific period of time. . My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. It would be interesting to see how Bob spoke about this topic in his messages. He is in the pit, chained and bound? Was he ever wrong? Bakker was a victim of his own beliefs. Its as consistent as the law of gravitythe CC senior pastor marching up the sinner in front of the church to confess their sin publiclythen when its their turnthey want maximum grace and privacy and its a different standard. Andy, the whole passage is figurative or symbolic. , Now, using your best effort, not to be like us and not being consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says,- as you said. Yes I am disappointed but Bob is a man. In a congregation this size of course there are others who have been / are guilty of the same transgressions and there will be others in the future. Why cant you have the same stop digging up peoples sin! when it comes to the homosexual community? Coy Randall Gibbs (December 9, 1972 - November 6, 2022) was an American NASCAR driver, assistant coach for the Washington Redskins, and co-owner of Joe Gibbs Racing. Can you say Jimmy Swaggart? Moe- I thought of the verse Does a dog return to its vomit. The fact that this is a family-oriented show is one of the aspects that contributes to the shows overall depth, and we dont want to see that aspect altered in the least. May the Lord forgive each one of you, as well, who are rejoicing in the fall of a beloved preacher. #473, great post. Wow, this is shocking and very sad I will pray for healing for his wife and marriage, and that he is broken before God because of his sin, and takes full responsibility for all of it. Its not that I am questioning you, just that what you say rings truer to what I have heard in the past. When we fall, we have to model the humility and fidelity to the Scriptures that we demand they recognize.then model the love, grace, and restoration to the body that proves our complete fidelity. I pray that Bob would be broken over his failure as a husband, father, and pastor. Bob messed up, and now may everyone involved refuse to be offended and proceed forward to continuing victory in Christ. Please click here to learn how. I will never stop praying that the Lord restores them to fully walk with and trust in the Lord again. At times like this we as Christians need to be more like Jesus and have lots of compassion towards a man who at least for me taught me how to have a true relationship with God and no one can take that away from Bob. Carry on. MacArthur isnt a wolf in sheeps clothing, hes just a self-righteous pious a-hole from the pulpit, but at least he tows his own line in his personal life. So, how much is Bob Coy worth at the age of 66 years old? I am praying for healing and peace and for the hate to be put aside and the mercy and grace of God to be poured out on all. It is a struggle not to disrespect and dishonor her? we his congregation, and his family, are the ones that need to deal with it yes or no? Weve had too much of that here lately and it hurts us all. You actually contemplate cheating on your wife because something as trivial as an ad pops up on your FB page? Barbara wrote: The following exposes present facts about John Macarthur that he needed to know and we tried to explain, but to no avail. Is an argument really being expressed that the reporting of the news should have waited until after Sunday for Bobs wife and his children? The power this one man had over everyone was beyond imaginable. He would regularly "finger and fondle her" genitals, make her touch his penis, and "dirty talk" to her. Hes probably dirtier than Pastor Bob. No one is that big an idiot as you are letting on. Grow up. Why else would Mrs. Coy leave? Christ the Rock suffered its own scandal a while back and I heard that Pastor set up camp at a near location. I find it ridiculous to blame cheating on power and authority. We do not know if he has repented and maybe his unrepentance (if it is) is why he did not stand before the congregation. Why does the emphasis these days seem to be on altering The Message in a manner which appeals to the culture?. Others who knew of this pastors sin and felt the Lords call to also speak up, had dead birds put in their mailboxes and were threatened in other ways as well. Bakkers son, Jay, wrote in 2001 that the Bakkers felt betrayed by Falwell, whom they thought, at the time of Bakkers resignation, intended to help in Bakkers eventual restoration as head of the PTL ministry organization. Look Jesus does speak of his return very clearly in Matt 25, the 2nd half about the sheep and the goats 1.) But I cannot confirm on the matter. Thats a fact. I think its cheap entertainment. But this situation hurts my heart so much. This is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the congregation are idol worshipers. I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. The guilty person must be reprimanded publicly to generate remorse that may lead to his repentance. What Happened to Aunt Diane? Diane Schuler Case - YouTube Will try and just observe rather than contribute. You dont have to answer that. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. By the end of that harrowing call on August 20, 2015, police knew the accused predator was no ordinary suspect. Deal with it. [5] It is acclaimed as one of the great expressions of automotive customization. Here is a synopsis of the core beliefs that Coral Ridge list on their website. BD, the content of what Im stating cannot be denied, I have dialogued many Cavinists and when push comes to shove these are the things they believe, why are they embarrassed by these teachings, or try to deny them. well praying for you. Which is the essence of the lordship salvation false gospel. When did I ever mention Bob Coy? i heart sheck wrote: And, I dont see anyone coming to the defense of his co-sinners. Anonymous I know what youre speaking about there was defiantly is a we know better attitude through the church as is with any structured environment but I on at least (3) occasions took Bob to task on issues I questioned and each time he heard and reasoned with me, one time conceded, one time there was a healing between two churches and one time we agreed I was taking a bit too much license and should stay on the set point to which I conceded. It sure seemed to confuse many when he was with Greg and Chuck at the Harvest Crusade and was present at Chucks memorial. 22 IF THOSE DAYS HAD NOT BEEN CUT SHORT, NO ONE WOULD SURVIVE, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. There is a reason God forgives us. Give it to God. Please do not judge my pastor so harshly. Yes or no. Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. I would imagine Bob is fine with that it allows him to retain leverage for a future power-play if needed. My heart has been so heavy since I heard of this. But peace to you anyways. Or was it because he was caught? There were only a select few who could say anything about anything. messages - iamhisconference.com Something really big is going to come out soon. Were the prophecies of Revelation already fulfilled? He declined to discuss the child abuse case except to say he is innocent and passed a polygraph test to prove it. Do we take measures that heal or expunge the record of his existence? So his wife and kids just need to realize that this is the reality of life and BC is no worse or better than the average man, perhaps even a better man a stronger man, who is going through this facing the ravenous wolves that most of you have become! We are all vulnerable and weak!! Hugh, you might want to watch that calling-down-a-curse thing. CCFTL knew this could break wide open by Friday night/Saturday morning. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. So when is literal? I would also see their wives looking at them and nudging them. Lets look 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit do angels have hands? Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. "There were no other allegations," he says. He teaches clearly that one can take the Mark of the beast and still be redeemed. I love the nuts. Lori, I cant help but remember the hell you went through and how long it lasted. Bob did it. The victim wife of another scandal set up camp at a near by church SO if anyone can recommend a smaller church, please let me know. I sincerely hope you will stop wasting your time on this blog, seeing each of for who we really are, a bunch of very failure ridden representatives of Jesus, just faking our way through every day and butchering this faith called Christianity. Part of HuffPost Religion. I hadnt heard of any in my 30 years attending CC starting with CCCM in 1976 when I came to Christ. No Im not CC? As a pastor, I dont want people to blindly follow me. 2016) Family; Parents: Not Available: Wife: Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. We believe in one God, the sovereign Creator and Sustainer of all things, infinitely perfect and eternally existing in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. 14 And they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines on the west; together shall they spoil the children of the east; they shall put forth their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them. You have left the building. However, on mans side if Bob Coy were married to my sister, things would be different. No, my answer is well beyond convenient, it is crafted after years of thought, consideration and observation. Michael, come on now. Many evangelicals get saved and still do the same sins as before or trade them in for worse sins. Coys not aloneI know of quite a few CC pastors who are just un-caught for similar sins and other equally bad or worse stuff. Tell me one Christian that doesnt consider Jesus Lord and I will tell you they are not a Christian. Im not really a fan of the pastor-centric model for this reason. Smith was among the first pastors to make a startling discovery: Many of the hippies and disaffected youth who'd come for the Summer of Love had realized psychedelic drugs and the Grateful Dead weren't filling the holes in their lives. But in your praying dont forget those who are at the bottom of the iceberg who are actively involved in their secret sin of choice and will continue to do so as long as theyre not found out and as long as they ignore the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The best counsel I received was to keep my eyes on Jesus and off of man. I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! I have. Because of the way The Holy Spirit used Pastor Bobs Ministry my Wife , kids and I are all saved ! ok. 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. My beef with Mac is that his version of the gospel is gospel by correct doctrine and holy living which I dont think is correct. I find some reaction funny I just read one comment elsewhere that said I am so deeply saddened that this has happened to him and his family.. There are very few doctrinal stances in Protestantism that I find more odious than your free grace doctrines and the pre trib rapture stuff. Power corrupts. I am sure a church that size had plenty of people who did not attend last week as they likely miss from time to time. And did you go to bed with them? So how many women have you used and discarded to satisfy your lust? http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. In searching for that video- I see it was in end November 2013- only 4 1/2 months ago- not graduation..even worse.. Some are called to a higher level and accountability, and how much more do they need our prayer and support? We are so angry at one another so jealous, so accusing. Which is typical of todays modern quick moving world! To critics such as Newnham, there's only one reason to fight for a ruling like that: to hide from churchgoers the amount of cash the church gave Coy to go away. Pastor Bob Coy of Calvary Chapel accused of molesting 4-year-old I think child molesters and child abusers are much worse, but then again Im neither of those two so I am probably a bit biased. Our pastor, he committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography. When you knowingly sin then, post-saved, you are willfully being an enemy of God and we all do it b/c we are all aware of our sin and we sin anyway. That person is praying for me? And if Bob is reading this he now knows who I am. And dont forget that one of MacArthurs disciples, Francis Chan, is constantly preaching that American Christians are too rich and need to give it away to the world, as part of his works-based errors concerning the Gospel. By now we should have learned how to come to these matters. November 14, 2017 Yes, all the more evidence that men are still sinners after they are savedthere is no transformationmen still sin in the same or different areas as before they were saved. But with false doctrine he said But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray.. In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. What happened to Sharon? Did she die? - tvacute.com Deny that all you want, its the truth and you are a foolish if you think he is not doing his best to forget this happened for awhile. Back 160 yrs ago Martin Stephan led the Lutherans from Saxony to America. He had admitted to a grave "moral failing." "That whole approach always ends up hiding pedophiles.". There are multiple known affairs. Sure would make the shame easier to bear. Dustyno issues, sishugs right back to you. You should not trouble yourself with this man. Bode cared more about saving his mother than he did about himself. I do not judge him. They chose to ignore the explosion that created and run all their services as normal anyway. To bag on sisters and brothers who are as convinced of their conclusions as you are of yours is ungracious, short-sighted, erodes your credibility, and fosters division in the church. His fame went to his head. I dont like that at all. Is it like a day or is a day like a 1,000 yrs? She told Payne she was "moving tomorrow [overseas] on a mission trip with the church, and asked if it was possible to destroy any record of [her] abuse," the detective wrote in a closeout memo. We are a body in need of healing, this should be a time for all those afflicted similarly to be provided with a vehicle to come forward and seek healing. He boasted of a vast media reach. The church was more concerned with non-believers.. come as you are to meet Jesus than protecting their own sheep. "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. What about them? I completely agree with Michelle @175. MLD #681. I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said: 15 So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. Nero was certainly anti-Christ though I personally would not ascribe the definite article. Coy has had a national ministry, not just one to the local church and his fall is a matter of national news. That lent itself to a very youthful, crazy, wild lifestyle. I know it is difficult to understand that something good will come from this. But you are void on answering my points even right now you did not respond to the Acts 2 interpretation charge but diverted back to Luther. We are all fools if we judge a fellow brother.to the amount of forgiveness and grace and mercy we give, it is given to us.go light on your brother, for we have been forgiven much.. anything else is not of Christ.beware.and anyone who tries to twist it, discipline is always meant for restoration. Bad part is that I had to sit quiet because there is no evidence. Can you show me where I have expressed a uniquely Luther position? BC is not a victim he is a victimizer. #464, Unfortunately, I see this all over the place in American evangelicalism. The Lord Knows. They told me about some others they knew who were part of the less prestigious meals. When we objectify we act as gods. "She had an experience with God and has found forgiveness" for Coy over his abuse. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement. These are differences in interpretation and traditionand they fall within orthodoxy. He didnt go after anyone who left. All to help him and his family get over this. Of course there is grace for sinners, no one is arguing otherwise. Why do you deny it? Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. Im sure that everyone understands my need to be as careful and precise as possible. Devastated, I left my home church because of Bob Coys candid sermons that are always delivered with been there done that backround..I,m on my knees for him and his family knowing that what Michael before me said is all true..very sad. We wait until we know and can prove what we know, then we report. Satan is a liar, a thief and that is why it is soooo important for the body of Christ to pray for ALL pastors and their families and for all churchesand for our own families.continually.I cant be there for the meeting but my friends will be and they will be heartbroken..but we need to pray for Diane and the children and Not look at them wronglyPastor Bob needs continual prayer because I know with all my heart if he could turn back the clock he would have asked for help.. Calvary was his life and his families years ago in another church I was in a similar thing happened ..the pastor had built the church up to an enormous congregation in Orlando.and years later he came back not to his church but to ministries and the end of his life was his best. "He's contacted many former associates to try to get funding. everybody is broken by stuff like this. The language of this episode smacks of a scenario like the one I just described. MLD? I hear you, but keep it PG. He would simply confessown it all publiclywrite a new book on his time offand marvel at Gods grace toward him. Ever. MLD, Acts 2 has nothing to do with Revelations description of the 1000 years. Wow, the kingdom is disappointing. You become an accuser of the brethren for the sake of your worship. They did for a while, but after she SWAT Season 6 Episode 16: Now that the new S.W.A.T. 13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and they that harass Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim. Michael continues to be a blogger fail, spreading innacurate information, in hopes of being a journalist/blogger while these comments help sell him ads and he continues to beg for money via paypal on here. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. The cost is too high for all involved. Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. I sincerely hope you prayed about this before you set out to broadcast it to the entire world. Many months have gone by since then, and a few days ago I received a text from my friend in which she shared about Coys resignation/admitting to moral failure. Phoenix Preacher 2023. Some knew that the building that was built for the H.S. Lets see how many marriages this man has destroyed in his church. I hope his family and wife learn to love and trust again. And if you read June one of the comments I believe she really got it right.